Buying a vacation home on a teacher’s salary

Investing, Create wealth, control your cash, retirement planning

It’s at your vacation home, you whining harpy. (By the way, this picture was taken in Florida. Miami, to be precise. On February 11. A school day.

As philistines and libertarians, we make it a point never to listen to NPR nor watch PBS (why would we, they don’t broadcast football.) Unless, of course, NPR runs a story on a college classmate of ours. Especially with such an auspicious introductory line:

There are wealthy Canadians buying multimillion-dollar beachfront homes. And there are people like “Kirk”, who recently bought a 2-bedroom condo in Fort Myers, Fla., sight unseen.

Kirk is the high school teacher in question, and it’s not as if he retired from a lucrative career in personal finance before switching careers. He paid $56,000 for the condo, which sounds like a price out of the 1970s.

The NPR interviewer didn’t ask him how he afforded a vacation home on a teacher’s salary, especially with a couple of kids to feed. Nor did NPR ask him how he ever managed to date Khyrstine Thibeault, the hottest girl on campus, despite being neither a jock nor a rich kid nor remarkably good-looking. That’s where Control Your Cash came in. Kirk elaborates:

We went on vacation to Fort Myers Beach about 3 years ago, but I knew the price was cheaper inland than it was near the Gulf. We actually didn’t stay near this particular unit at all.

We bought the unit in early May and then we saw it in late August. We bought through Florida Home Finders of Canada in Brampton, Ontario. I saw pictures of the unit, went online to see what the area was like, what units were going for, etc. We didn’t use, or need, an appraiser or home inspector because FHFC had done all the legwork.

I borrowed C$50,000. I had $10,000 from a condo sale that went sour in Whitby, Ontario. With the Canadian dollar at U.S. 96¢ the Fort Myers condo was a shade under C$60,000.

 

By go sour, he means that the condo company went out of business and he got his down payment back.

I paid for it with a home equity loan over 25 years. I think it was 3½% or 4%. I wanted to keep it separate from the mortgage on my primary residence in Canada, just in case we do a home renovation. (If we do,) then I will extend my mortgage.

 

If you’re thinking about a big purchase like this, especially if it involves big financing like this, understand that a 3½% mortgage and a 4% mortgage aren’t interchangeable. You don’t just round the number to the nearest integer and hope for the best. If the interest rate on this home equity loan is 4%, Kirk would be paying $263.92 monthly. Which is $79,175.53 over the course of the loan. If it’s 3½%, he’d be paying $250.31 monthly, or $75,093.54. Or $4.081.99 less over the course of the loan.

I have an off-site property management company that guarantees me a renter and takes 8%. Every month they rent it out for $792, and deposit my share of that in my bank account. The homeowners association takes their $273 (Editor’s note: holy crap) and then I’m left with about 470ish a month. ($455.64, by our calculations.) I pay $122 on my loan every 2 months, (sic, he means weeks) so I guess I’m ahead about $200 every 2 months (not sure what he means here, but we think it’s “every month”. See below). My tax bill was just under $1000 at the end of the year. Tax time is coming up, I’m not sure what to expect there.

Our take? This condo was a sufficiently smoking deal that Kirk will still profit from despite making a couple of mistakes.

Here are a few tips if you fancy yourself a low-level land baron:

1. Know your numbers. Nothing’s more important than this.

Kirk had only a hazy idea of his interest rate. A 50-basis point difference is huge. His low estimate is 1/8 less than his high estimate.
Assuming the higher estimate, he nets a pre-tax $205.33 monthly. Hopefully a) it’s a fixed-rate mortgage and b) Kirk knows that it is.

2. This doesn’t necessarily apply to Kirk, but know your terms, too. If you don’t, ask someone. Keep asking people until the answer is no longer ambiguous. We know of one 40-something apartment dweller who was ready to “send some guys over” to deal physically with her old landlord. Why? Because she had been on a lease option, which works like a regular rental arrangement for a fixed term. At the end of the term the renter has the option to buy the place.

She had never heard the term before, and assumed that it meant her monthly payments were going toward eventual ownership of the condo, like an ordinary mortgage. No, those monthly payments were going to pay her landlord’s mortgage. Her lease expired and she had neither the tens of thousands of dollars on hand, nor financing in lieu, to buy the place. She had been nothing more than a renter, and didn’t even realize it.

(Editor’s Note: Therefore, a lease option is a wonderful thing to be on the other side of. Worst-case scenario, you sell your property for a price you already agreed to, all the while having had your mortgage payments taken care of by the renter. Better-case scenario, the lease term expires, the renter can’t afford to exercise the option and you get to keep owning the place. There’s an excellent chance of that happening. There’s a reason why most renters are renting, and that reason is fiscal indiscipline.)

Assuming Kirk’s numbers are consistent, more than 40% of his net condo revenue goes to taxes. Still, if he’s “getting paid” $1400 a year to own a modest vacation home, there are worse places for him to have put that home equity loan.

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Sweet Jehovah, another Carnival of Wealth already?

Looking for something family-friendly? Sorry, wrong carnival.

Looking for something family-friendly? SORRY, WRONG CARNIVAL

Indeed it is time for another Carnival of Wealth. Which is great. Our monthly chance to not only see what our fellow financial bloggers are doing, but let them write most of the post for us. The following posts have been selected for their educational and/or comedic value. (Oh, and Marilyn Stowe of the Marilyn Stowe Family Law & Divorce Blog? You can stop your multiple submissions anytime now. No one here cares about the latest in divorce case management and procedure in the UK. This is a personal finance carnival. You folks speak English in England, right?)

Let’s start with Jeffrey Patrick Lui at JPLui.com, who’s giving us his new year’s resolutions. (LUI is also a backronym for “Living Under Imagination.”) These resolutions are for Chinese new year, according to him. Which was 6 weeks ago. Fortunately, he should be able to track his progress in time for Hebrew new year (September 29.) Apparently we’ll be seeing more of Jeffrey Patrick at his brother’s place this year. Can’t wait.

Glen at Parenting Family Money knows what utter misery children can bring to a household. In addition to ruining your sleep patterns, your finances and your sanity, they can also do a job on your furniture.

From Tom (via Brianna, via Matt) at Stupid Cents comes this helpful post on how to determine what factors determine your credit score. Until those secretive bastards at Fair, Isaac & Company give us the formula, this is the best we can do.

If you’re a man, or a childless woman, please move to the next entry. For the rest of you, Jessica at MomVesting explains how mutual funds work. It’s “mom”: America’s favorite new prefix.

The Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission (Canada’s answer to America’s FCC) requires that a certain proportion of radio and TV content be of Canadian origin, and sometimes it seems as though the CoW operates the same way. This week, Jim Yih at Retire Happy Blog tells his fellow hosers how to find help with their taxes.

Wait. There’s more of that, this from the halls of academia. Kevin at Invest it Wisely offers a guest post written by a Ph.D. who uses charts, graphs and jargon to explain something about the best way for retirees to earn income.

Are you familiar with Bill Eater? We were initially disappointed to find out that that wasn’t the actual name of this week’s contributor. While Mr. Eater unfortunately doesn’t exist, in his absence Jessica Bosari rails against celebrities acting as spokespeople for financial companies.

We can usually count on Mike Piper at The Oblivious Investor to provoke thought, and this week is no exception. Should you claim Social Security benefits early and invest the money? The answer isn’t as obvious as you might think.

If you’re ready to introduce your kindergartner to the exciting world of personal finance blogging, there’s no better place to start than with the elementary prose of Dividend Stocks Online and this week’s submission on the phenomenon of something called “dividend aristocrats.”

/wants so, so badly to do an interpretation of “The Aristocrats”
/doesn’t

We recently ran a post from someone named Madison DuPaix, and were convinced that it was a stage name. This week’s “come on, that’s got to be a pseudonym” entry is from Paula Pant at Faith & Finance. The esteemed Miss Pant writes about the 7 Deadly Sins and what they can teach us about money. Seriously, this is a fantastic read and in keeping with a recent observation we made here at CYC, people who grew up in non-English-speaking countries somehow seem to make some of the most erudite personal finance bloggers.

Ramsay at Moneyed Up gets your attention with the inspiring opening line, “Over the years, the maximum allowable 401k contribution has increased to a level that enables anyone who avails themselves of it to create a meaningful income source while enjoying significant tax savings along the way”, and it just gets more gripping from there.

Did you know that you shouldn’t ignore warning lights on your car’s dash? The Sun’s Financial Diary also recommends you should buy in bulk if you want to save money. Stay tuned for next week’s submission, “Lighting $20 bills on fire: good or bad?”

Hiring a financial adviser is so important that it supersedes the correct use of pronouns. Consumer Boomer gives us “10 questions to ask a financial adviser before using them”.

Sometime in the next decade, Money Reasons’ son and daughter are going to start asking him if they can “borrow” some cash. He’ll refer them to this post and explain that instead of giving them a fish, he had stocked a pond years earlier.

Justin at Money is the Root tells us this week that “saving more and spending less is a central theme for financial management.” He helpfully adds that eating healthy and exercising are…well, they’re either important or unimportant for maintaining health, we can’t remember which. So you’re going to have to read the post to find the answer.

The days of the smoke-filled boiler room aren’t behind us. The rooms have just moved online and gotten harder to track down a physical address for. Pinyo at Moolanomy explains what to do if your stockbroker goes out of business.

We were hoping that Outlaw Finance contained money-saving tips from Billy the Kid and Jesse James (“Never hold up a fast-movin’ stagecoach. That means it just dropped off its payload, reckonin’ as it ain’t weighed down by silver.”) Instead, this week’s post is about how to save money. Guess what? You should pay off your debt and set savings goals.

A submission containing actual research and useful information? Say it ain’t so. George at Fat Pitch Financials throws a big one down the heart of the plate with his list of the S&P 500’s cheapest companies (measured by price relative to book value.) Why is this guy’s Alexa rank only in the 500,000s?

Here’s another one for your pre-schoolers. Tear them away from The Wiggles for a second and show them this entry from Charles Chua C K at the recursively titled All About Living With Life, who tells us why debt is bad.

This might be our funniest post yet:
Submitted 18 months after publication? Check.
Far too long? Check.
Full of patently obvious advice? Check.
Superfluous use of the word “literally”? Check, although that’s not as bad as incorrect use of the word “literally”. (“The world is literally her oyster.”)
Written by a psychic?
Check.
Who’s gravy-training off her more famous husband (or ex-husband, we’re not really sure)? Check and mate.  Erin Pavlina, everyone.

Credit Donkey* avails us of extended warranties offered by credit card companies. They’re a great and risk-free way to save money, operating under the assumption that you’re not so dumb that you’re carrying a balance.

Kyle Berks at Integrated Loans offers this post on how to improve your credit score after bankruptcy, which is like learning how to breathe after getting a lung removed. WARNING: in the picture of the post’s author (not Kyle), he’s not just doing the wink-and-the-gun, he’s doing the rare wink-and-double-gun.

Oh, for crying out loud. Someone who calls herself Harriet at something called Human Services Degree chose to submit something on the personal finance subtopic of not going on vacation. Perhaps that counts as personal finance, if you think hard enough. First off, no one under 90 is named Harriet. Second, how can you use the word “staycation” and have any self-respect? Too bad Harriet’s not a guy, maybe he’d have a “bromance” brewing. Perhaps with a frenemy.

How do you eliminate your college credit card debt in 2 years? That’s easy – blackjack and roulette! (Hint: never bet on red, it comes up less than half the time.)
But apparently Neal Frankle at Wealth Pilgrim doesn’t like fun solutions like that. Instead, he suggests taking responsibility. Sheesh, what a buzzkill.

If you’re traveling through time and happen to catch Wesley Snipes in 1999, please send him this submission from Steve at 2011 Tax on how to make nice with the IRS. Trust us, Mr. Snipes will thank you.

The answer is yes. The question is, Should I quit my 9-to-5 job? Sonia Naidu at Fuel2Drive argues the exact opposite point, we think.

One of the best ways to start an intercenine war within your family is to create a lucrative business and then let your heirs figure out what to do with it once you’re dead. Evan at My Journey To Millions explains how for the well-prepared, nothing succeeds like succession.

Looking for a financial advisor? Carlos Sera at Financial Tales suggests that you look at his checklist. And you’ll never guess what he does for a living.

You’re right, this week’s CoW isn’t quite preachy enough. Everything Finance at Talking About Green reminds you that the Internal Revenue Service’s managers have chosen to play favorites with people who own wood-burning stoves. So now, while you’re turning CO2-burning trees into useless cinders to heat your home, you can not only kid yourself into thinking that you’re being ecologically benevolent, you can get paid for it!

If you missed Control Your Cash’s guest post on balance sheets, Alex Young at Yell0BrickRd explains them simply.

Finally, from the “putting in effort is a waste of time” subsection, MM (it stands for “Miniscule Missive”) at Black Swans & White Crows not only borrowed his blog’s name from Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s pop sociology tome of the moment, but MM also managed to send us a submission that’s only 69 words long – including the obligatory 2 reader questions at the end. (This paragraph’s description of MM’s submission is 71 words long.)

The Carnival returns to Personal Dividends next week, and will be back here on the 1st Sunday of next (and every) month. Don’t say we didn’t warn you.

*How did they not go with the infinitely more awesome “Credit Burro”?